If you haven’t already read section 1031 and 1032 of senate bill 1867, they can be found in the bill’s original pdf document here:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867pcs/pdf/BILLS-112s1867pcs.pdf
There really is a lot of hype going around about this senate bill. Most people who are building it up haven’t done their own research and are just regurgitating what they hear from those who are hyping it up. I fear people in my family think that way when I write them emails about this stuff, that I’m just spreading the hype. The thing is, I’ve done my research and have studied the applicable sections of that bill and am drawing my conclusion based on what I know.
There are also a lot of people who say this has nothing to do with United States citizens, as it plainly says in section 1032: “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.”
But, its important to pay attention to the language and scope of this statement found in section 1031 regarding people that can be detained:
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(b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under this section is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
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The language appears to imply only “al-Qaeda” and “the Taliban” and “associated forces”. Sure it means “associated forces” being those who are associated directly with al-Qaeda and the Taliban, right? Surely it doesn’t mean any of us who are United States citizens, right?
They need to clarify to a much larger degree what “associated forces” means. To do this, they need to INCLUDE groups who fall under “associated forces”, not just EXCLUDE United States citizens. Someone might argue that when it says “associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States”, they are in fact describing groups who fall under “associated forces”. But again, that is WAY too broad and must be clarified.
They need to clarify “hostilities against the United States”, too. For all we know, anyone that badmouths President Obama is engaging in hostilities against the United States. Again, anyone who brings to light the insidious corruption of our government (our current government as a whole) just might be engaging in hostilities against the United States because doing so would thwart the agendas of “officials” in our government who are pushing for a New World Order and a one world government.
To add more weight to the issue, it says “including any person who has committed a belligerent act”. People automatically think the bill is referring to foreigners who fall under “associated forces”. But what is a “belligerent act”? According to merriam-webster.com, belligerence is “an aggressive or truculent attitude, atmosphere, or disposition”. If we accept that definition and re-read “including any person who has committed a belligerent act”, that can very easily mean anyone around the world (including us Americans) who commit an act with an aggressive or truculent attitude.
Considering the context in which “belligerent act” is used in the bill, it is connected to war and may not necessarily be referring to joe-blow who commits an act with an aggressive attitude. Once again, they need to be VERY SPECIFIC when describing these types of bills.
To clarify things, they added the statements in section 1032:
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(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined–
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.
The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
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Think about this phrase from above: “The requirement in paragraph (1)”… What is paragraph (1)? Here it is: “Except as provided in paragraph (4), the Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described in paragraph (2) who is captured in the course of hostilities authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) in military custody pending disposition under the law of war.”
Going on: “The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined” (Now read it carefully) “to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force” (again, there’s that very broadly defined associated force who can encompass just about anyone) “that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda” (ohhh, ok, so now they’re getting more detailed).
They HAVE to more precisely describe what it means to act in coordination with al-Qaeda because if they don’t, that lack of description will be used against us. You can count on that. For example, if you go to the airport and opt-out of the naked body scanners, you are treated like you’re guilty of something. They then will perform a full body pat down and touch your private parts whether you say you’re leaving or not. If you refuse that, you are taken into a room for questioning. Can’t forget to mention all the reported thefts and rapes that happen behind those closed doors. All this for the sake of safety? How many terrorists have the TSA thugs caught by performing these dangerous (the body scanners) and extremely invasive (the pat downs) protocol procedures? Oh, and I forgot to mention that high and mighty bankers and government officials are exempt from going through the scanners and having the pat downs, while it is THEY who are raping this country of its freedoms outlined in the Constitution. They are the terrorists and should be treated as such.
Now, by me saying what I just did and posting it on SurvivingTheFuture.com, it can possibly be “determined” that I am engaging in hostilities against the United States. But once again, these hostilities are not precisely defined in the bill which means that something so simple as writing a few lines of truth about our corrupt system might be grounds for arrest.
So am I truly safe just because of the little line they added in section 1032: “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States”. I’m a citizen, right? If they determine for ANY reason at all I might be associated with al-Qaeda, the Taliban or “associated forces”, that little line will not keep me safe. If you’re a traitor, you’re a traitor and will be treated as such. And it will be determined by them.
People might say that I’m looking too deep, but considering the sins our current government has committed against humanity now and over the years (including enslaving us in so much debt that there is no way out except to turn to a world currency run by a world government supported by the Trilateral Commission and the Builderburg Group, thus destroying the Constitution… all this info is available), I don’t believe there is anything they wont do.
We are a VERY dependent people. Over 44 million Americans are using food stamps because they can’t afford to be independent in that area. What’s going to happen when the US Dollar becomes worth less and less, and the government keeps on providing food to its citizens and illegal parasites? Taxes taxes taxes. Money printing printing printing. Debt debt debt. The only solution will be create a world central bank that controls the money supply and prices. A major red flag for that is the preliminary testing of the idea – the Euro. A bunch of countries bought in to the idea and its destroying them. If we go a world currency, the same thing will happen and the United States will lose its sovereignty and its precious freedoms protected by the Constitution.
The thing is, its the ultimate goal of the globalists and eugenicist like Hillary and Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Al Gore, Newt Gingrich (he just talked about it a few days ago, and was supported by Bill Clinton), and many more is to have a one world government with them being a part of it.
There are good guys like Ron Paul who will do their utmost to restore America and have a real constitutional government, as well as the currency talked about in the constitution rather than our worthless federal reserve notes. Any idea why Ron Paul gets seconds compared to minutes in the Presidential debates yet will wins in post-debate polls? Its because mainstream media doesn’t want Americans to hear what he has to say. He doesn’t get the time of day from them, and its sad. But he is going strong, and I believe he needs to be President in order for us to get back on track. None of the other candidates will do it. They all say the same thing which is what we want to hear.
Anyway, this whole situation with this bill… The bill needs to be denied or drastically clarified so the scope includes very specifically defined groups of people rather than just excluding United States citizens. I could go on for hours about what our government has done, but people don’t want to hear it.
Here is the link to what zerohedge says about it and how it will create a police state here in America.
Here is a paragraph from their article:
“The Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself.”
Here is what the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) briefly says about it:
“The U.S. Senate is considering the unthinkable: changing detention laws to imprison people — including Americans living in the United States itself — indefinitely and without charge.”
“The Defense Authorization bill — a “must-pass” piece of legislation — is headed to the Senate floor with troubling provisions that would give the President — and all future presidents — the authority to indefinitely imprison people, without charge or trial, both abroad and inside the United States.”
Here is a link to the ACLU website where you can send a message to your senators and urge them to oppose this bill. The message is pre-filled so all you have to do is send it. If you’d like, you can customize the message and insert your thoughts and feelings about it. Now is the time to take action and put forth your voice. This is real stuff. Its not hard to see that when our government is given power, they abuse the crap out of it. We can’t give our government this power. Its too broad and dangerous.
I hope you all send the message because by not doing so when the opportunity is available, we don’t let our voice be heard. The majority of the people tend to choose that which is right, right? The scriptures warn us what happens when the majority chooses evil. And by not letting our voices be heard, we withdraw from the majority of those who choose righteousness and inadvertently let those who choose evil become greater in number.
I’m sending the message to my Idaho Senator right now and sure hope you guys do the same for your state. Love you all! Here’s the link to the ACLU website to send the message:
https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3865&s_subsrc=fixNDAA
Anyway, I’m done with my rant now about section 1031 and 1032 of Bill 1867!
Source: http://www.survivingthefuture.com/what-sections-1031-and-1032-of-bill-1867-really-mean.html